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	<title>Comments on: Some Cleveland Independent Media Problems</title>
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		<title>By: bathiel</title>
		<link>http://www.blackheartcleveland.com/2009/06/29/some-cleveland-independent-media/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>bathiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just was informed of this post.  I&#039;m the executive editor of the Ohio City Argus.  The Argus is not affiliated with the Observer chain, but is independently published by Ohio City Near West Development Corporation.  All our issues are available for downloading in pdf format at www.ohiocity.com.
Bernie Thiel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just was informed of this post.  I&#8217;m the executive editor of the Ohio City Argus.  The Argus is not affiliated with the Observer chain, but is independently published by Ohio City Near West Development Corporation.  All our issues are available for downloading in pdf format at <a href="http://www.ohiocity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohiocity.com</a>.<br />
Bernie&nbsp;Thiel</p>
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		<title>By: BHC &#38; Cleveland Independent&#160;Collaboration &#124; BLACKHEART Cleveland</title>
		<link>http://www.blackheartcleveland.com/2009/06/29/some-cleveland-independent-media/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>BHC &#38; Cleveland Independent&#160;Collaboration &#124; BLACKHEART Cleveland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just practicing what we preached back June: collaboration &amp; cooperation instead of competition, and a focus on cyberspace [...]</description>
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<p>[&#8230;] just practicing what we preached back June: collaboration <span class="amp">&amp;</span> cooperation instead of competition, and a focus on cyberspace&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Stosh Burgess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stosh Burgess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My name is Stosh Burgess I created Faction Press. I barely graduated from high school. I use to drive a tractor trailer  for UPS. I worked there for 13 years and had to get out. It was good money, but i never saw my wife and kids and my mind was turning to mush sitting in a truck all day.  I thought I was smart enough to start my own business and there was really never a place for my friends and our scene to hangout on a regular basis, so i create one (Spitfire Saloon).  

This is the same attitude that brought about the Faction Press.  I started Faction Press as a result of the lack of coverage the “Cleveland underground”and also the simple fact that for the price that it cost to buy an ad for my bar in mainstream publications, I could easily start my own publication. I have been thinking  about starting a publication since the Free Times buyout.  I believe that if you are thinking about doing something you should go ahead and do it(it should not matter if you fail or not, you at least did something). So I ask a friend to start trying to sell ads and I started looking for content that touched on many different subject areas.I did not want the paper to be anything in particular.  I wanted it to be about the people or groups of people that are doing things in Cleveland, regardless of what the mainstream thinks of them.    

When the Faction came out I met James Renner (an actual author and journalist). He had the same vision i had. His was more news and crime reporting and of course mine was underground subculture.  We came to the conclusion that there was no reason that we could not work together to make a real paper that truly reflects the backdrop of Cleveland.  The things and people that make this city what it is.  We teamed up and decided to start fresh with a new publication, “The Independent”.   So we are currently working hard on putting in an infrastructure for The Independent and are on course to have issue #1 out August 5th. 

One thing in closing, we are not trying to put anyone out of business, when companies go out of business people lose their jobs.  We want to create something that  fills a void and we believe this will make a great publication. In doing this, we will make other publications better (you would think).  Competition benefits the consumer and makes businesses become better. You can check out our site at &lt;a href=&quot;http://clevelandindependent.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;clevelandindependent.com&lt;/a&gt;

Thanks
Stosh Burgess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Stosh Burgess I created Faction Press. I barely graduated from high school. I use to drive a tractor trailer  for <span class="caps">UPS</span>. I worked there for 13 years and had to get out. It was good money, but i never saw my wife and kids and my mind was turning to mush sitting in a truck all day.  I thought I was smart enough to start my own business and there was really never a place for my friends and our scene to hangout on a regular basis, so i create one (Spitfire&nbsp;Saloon).  </p>
<p>This is the same attitude that brought about the Faction Press.  I started Faction Press as a result of the lack of coverage the “Cleveland underground”and also the simple fact that for the price that it cost to buy an ad for my bar in mainstream publications, I could easily start my own publication. I have been thinking  about starting a publication since the Free Times buyout.  I believe that if you are thinking about doing something you should go ahead and do it(it should not matter if you fail or not, you at least did something). So I ask a friend to start trying to sell ads and I started looking for content that touched on many different subject areas.I did not want the paper to be anything in particular.  I wanted it to be about the people or groups of people that are doing things in Cleveland, regardless of what the mainstream thinks of&nbsp;them.    </p>
<p>When the Faction came out I met James Renner (an actual author and journalist). He had the same vision i had. His was more news and crime reporting and of course mine was underground subculture.  We came to the conclusion that there was no reason that we could not work together to make a real paper that truly reflects the backdrop of Cleveland.  The things and people that make this city what it is.  We teamed up and decided to start fresh with a new publication, “The Independent”.   So we are currently working hard on putting in an infrastructure for The Independent and are on course to have issue #1 out August&nbsp;5th. </p>
<p>One thing in closing, we are not trying to put anyone out of business, when companies go out of business people lose their jobs.  We want to create something that  fills a void and we believe this will make a great publication. In doing this, we will make other publications better (you would think).  Competition benefits the consumer and makes businesses become better. You can check out our site at&nbsp;<a href="http://clevelandindependent.com/" rel="nofollow">clevelandindependent.com</a></p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Stosh&nbsp;Burgess</p>
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